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#2705
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 2
Yes, I reduced the strand size by cutting away the yarns. By doing the taper there is no need for any of that ugly melting.
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#2707
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 7
Beutiful splices, Gene, but to much work. What you describe is very much similar to what I do when splicing two lines together in order to reave it (them?) through a block. The taper, that is. Also, never use only three crowns on a synthetic line 'regardless' of what some professional says. It's OK for natural fibers though... though I'll generally throw in an extra just for the 'psychological' safety factor (i.e. ease of mind).

Chris, wait until you start splicing double braided nylon lines. Boy, talk about a treat! As for ending my lines, I just cut short, melt a bit, and use the flat of a blade to press the globule smooth. I tend not to whip that work for esthetic effect, either.

Also Chris, Gene: do you splice an eye on the bitter end that terminates on the boat from your bouy... then simply toss the eye over the cleat as many do... or do you actually snub/cleat the line? I ask, because I've seen many that simply toss the eye splice over the cleat and, while faster... I don't know... always seems to me to be somewhat precarious (the eye tossed easily on, might also easily come off in a storm).

Just curious.
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#2734
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 3
[hi everybody, I'm back]

I do as Gene recommends, with the taper with at least two cut downs. I tend to melt the cuts then tuck them in. I also find the taping to the eye works well. I've spliced many mooring lines, replacing them when they have chafed or stiffened but have never found the splice to have weakened.

I like eyes on the boat ends of my mooring lines as well. Partially because of the size of my deck cleat vs. mooring line (big line, smaller cleat). But also because it helps when you "single off" to one side before casting off, is convenient to pass my dinghy painter and mooring line float through, but primarily because it makes making fast under hectic conditions a lot easier. I also use a small piece of 1/4" line to "close the eye" around the cleat after it's made fast on the top eye (I always use 2 mooring lines).

Earlier boats I've owned had a king post or something similar and an eye on the mooring line was easiest and best. Maybe I'm still partial to them because of that.
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#2735
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 7
I hear you there, Todd. I've never had a splice fail, but they can certainly chaff once they begin to lose their elasticity. Welcome back, by the way.

I think what I'm going to do is look around for some larger cleats in order to 'upgrade'. Something that'd allow me to pass a 1/2" spliced eye through the cleat, then up and over both horns. That, I'd feel comfortable with, as it's the ideal to me. As is, I see quite a few boats that have the eyes loosely tossed over the cleat, untucked. That just smacks a little 'risky' to me.

Again, welcome back!
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#2737
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 5
I wound up whipping the ends under. It worked quite nicely and the pressure from the whipping made it look tapered in the end anyway. Worked out nice. One of the lines had funky twist in it so I may be re-doing one of them.

I sized my eye splice so that it barely fits over the cleat, or so I hope. All the other boats I've been on have done it this way, rather than the snub cleat method you mention Gary. Either way seems fine to me provided you have a tight fit. The only thing I could see as an advantage of the sized eye splice is that it doesn't bind which is the whole reason for doing the splice in the first place. Not sure though...
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#2742
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 2
Wow, you line-splicing, end-whipping, thimble-wrappers are making me feel like a dweeb.

I normally do that horn wrapping thing you do Gary, except on the mooring where the lines are too thick. I tie a thin line around the cleats after the mooring lines are on to satisfy my paranoia. I have seen some people criss-cross the mooring lines but I dont see how that is actually more secure (the concept is that the line under tension will be laying on top the loose one to prevent it from lifting off).

But what do I know?
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#2744
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 7
You're funny, Bree. Your talk about electronics, CPU's, etc makes ME feel the dweeb...

Chris, what happened to your avatar? Anyway, I ALMOST spliced my boat end of the mooring lines last week very tight, so as to be worked/squeezed over the horns as you mention. Instead, I left the bitter end a... well, a bitter end, while contemplating what to do. Course, now that she's launched I'll not be doing a cleat upgrade until fall, so may splice 'em tight.
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#2756
Re:Eye splice in mooring line 3 Years, 11 Months ago Karma: 3
Thanks Gary
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